Comments for Credo ↔ Oratio http://tenclay.org/blog Fri, 24 May 2013 16:25:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 Comment on Essere Chiesa Insieme by Derek DeJager http://tenclay.org/blog/2013/02/24/essere-chiesa-insieme/comment-page-1/#comment-89478 Derek DeJager Fri, 24 May 2013 16:25:09 +0000 http://tenclay.org/blog/?p=1353#comment-89478 Thanks for a thoughtful article, Tim. I’m reminded of something that Bonhoeffer said once about how nothing threatens Christian community quite so much as our dreams of it. For myself, I need daily to repent of not laying down my life at the foot of the cross.

]]> Comment on A little advice for new pastors… by Wayne Bowerman http://tenclay.org/blog/2013/03/13/a-little-advice-for-new-pastors/comment-page-1/#comment-89414 Wayne Bowerman Sat, 16 Mar 2013 14:52:42 +0000 http://tenclay.org/blog/?p=1365#comment-89414 Tim! This is wonderful advice I think I would do well to keep in mind. I especially as a young bull headed idealistic pastor will probably need to remind myself again of the bit about flags. I also really appreciate your thoughts on special sermons or preaching to particular individuals, I can imagine both being a temptation at times. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience life lessons!

]]> Comment on A little advice for new pastors… by Cindi Veldheer DeYoung http://tenclay.org/blog/2013/03/13/a-little-advice-for-new-pastors/comment-page-1/#comment-89413 Cindi Veldheer DeYoung Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:08:25 +0000 http://tenclay.org/blog/?p=1365#comment-89413 Very good, Tim. Since I work in a regional medical center, I’ll say another word about how folks dress. If you come to visit your hospitalized parishioners looking like a teenager in flip-flops, most likely the staff will treat you like a teenager in flip-flops (this is not a good thing, if you wish to convey some pastoral authority). And please, please do visit your parishioners in the hospital or at home, or wherever they are.

I would also say, having done hundreds of funerals, that conducting a “generic” funeral is sufficient reason for us to push you into the grave vault. Even if the family has said, “just give us a word, Pastor,” it deserves to be a personal word, so do your homework. Even if the family is resistant to you doing your homework. Would you want a generic funeral?

]]> Comment on A little advice for new pastors… by kldavelaar http://tenclay.org/blog/2013/03/13/a-little-advice-for-new-pastors/comment-page-1/#comment-89412 kldavelaar Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:14:01 +0000 http://tenclay.org/blog/?p=1365#comment-89412 Wonderful Tim — the voice of a seasoned pastor. . . and you’re still YOUNG <3

]]> Comment on A little advice for new pastors… by paulgjanssen http://tenclay.org/blog/2013/03/13/a-little-advice-for-new-pastors/comment-page-1/#comment-89411 paulgjanssen Thu, 14 Mar 2013 01:18:27 +0000 http://tenclay.org/blog/?p=1365#comment-89411 No amount of contact by computer or phone will replace a five minute face to face conversation.
Buy a Pastor’s Log. In it, write down the birthdays of every member of the congregation, and anniversaries, and, if you can get access to them, other significant days. Recognize these days when they come.
Say thank you more than please — and if you’re not a natural thanker, find someone who is, who can write you a weekly list of who should be thanked and for what.
Budget plenty of non-computer time. Do what you want with it, but don’t spend it looking at a screen of any sort. (Guess I should have said non-screen time)
Take all the vacation you have coming to you, whether you think you need it or not. Sometimes you don’t find out you needed it until after you gave it away.
Love your congregation. If you don’t love them, get out and do something else. Don’t just go somewhere else. Inability to love the unlovely will probably travel with you.
Read the Desiderata at least once a month.

]]> Comment on Just One Week and I’m off to Rome! by kldavelaar http://tenclay.org/blog/2013/01/05/just-one-week-and-im-off-to-rome/comment-page-1/#comment-89409 kldavelaar Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:48:54 +0000 http://tenclay.org/blog/?p=1342#comment-89409 Have a STUPENDOUS time Tim!! I know you will.
And happy birthday to Sophia tomorrow!

]]> Comment on Just One Week and I’m off to Rome! by Craig and Susan http://tenclay.org/blog/2013/01/05/just-one-week-and-im-off-to-rome/comment-page-1/#comment-89408 Craig and Susan Sat, 05 Jan 2013 20:06:38 +0000 http://tenclay.org/blog/?p=1342#comment-89408 Congratulations Tim…….We are sure you’ll learn so much while away. We’ll be close by if the “girls” need anything! Looking forward to your updates and photos! What a dream place to visit!

]]> Comment on Church Secrets learned from Farming by Dan Griswold http://tenclay.org/blog/2012/07/11/church-secrets-learned-from-farming/comment-page-1/#comment-89391 Dan Griswold Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:04:52 +0000 http://tenclay.org/blog/?p=1300#comment-89391 Very nice! As you remind us so well, metaphors are important. They guide, for better or worse, and they reveal what people really believe.

I hope many take to heart the tending metaphors you lift up.

]]> Comment on Church Secrets learned from Farming by Lowell TenClay http://tenclay.org/blog/2012/07/11/church-secrets-learned-from-farming/comment-page-1/#comment-89390 Lowell TenClay Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:39:23 +0000 http://tenclay.org/blog/?p=1300#comment-89390 Well said!

]]> Comment on Sex Metaphors by Church Secrets learned from Farming | Credo ↔ Oratio http://tenclay.org/blog/2006/06/18/sex-metaphors/comment-page-1/#comment-89389 Church Secrets learned from Farming | Credo ↔ Oratio Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:54:25 +0000 http://tenclay.org/blog/2006/06/18/sex-metaphors/#comment-89389 [...] years ago, I briefly discussed my disgust with the sexual metaphors used for church planting. Sadly, that language hasn’t gone away; we still talk about “birthing” new [...]

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